Comments on: Mobile Safari’s misleadingly greyed out “file upload” control https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/ User Experience Design, Research & Good Old Fashioned Usability Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:04:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: blissweb https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-237231 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:59:56 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-237231 Its ridiculous for a start. The way Android handles it is fine and doing that is well within Apple’s capabilities.

Its really annoying when Apple say.. lets everyone move to standard HTML and then doesn’t support standard HTML.

By not supporting this tag it not only forces people to write Apps but of course, those Apps can only be sold through the App store where they get their 30%.

And even if those apps are free, the publisher is still paying $99 per year to develop them.

Another thing that makes developers do apps and not pure HTML is mobile Safari’s inability to remove the annoying bottom nav bar unless you save the page to a desktop icon.

Its all part of Apple’s evil master plan to extort money from everyone IMHO.

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By: David Chang https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-225401 Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:36:48 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-225401 s a developer plugin that allows you upload files from the cloud, like Dropbox, Box, Facebook, gmail so your users can use your website. Full disclosure: I’m one of the authors.]]> You can also use filepicker.io. While the safari local upload is still greyed out, it’s a developer plugin that allows you upload files from the cloud, like Dropbox, Box, Facebook, gmail so your users can use your website.

Full disclosure: I’m one of the authors.

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By: Jrod bloyd https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-219497 Tue, 29 May 2012 22:37:05 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-219497 Download the “picup” app from the app store to make the upload button take you to the photo album.

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By: Jdak https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-216237 Thu, 17 May 2012 10:51:07 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-216237 Try Opera Mini. Upload actually works and when you click it, it takes you directly to pictures. I don’t know why apple is letting themselves be out done. Also Opera runs every request thru their server first crunching data upto 90% saving huge amounts of data. Their are some other things I like and don’t like tho.

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By: Hennes Media https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-157671 Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:30:12 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-157671 Here is one way of doing it. It may need some work, but it is on the right track.
http://picupapp.com/index.html

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By: Ultrafly https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-155045 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:12:18 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-155045 “Yep this is really easy on Android to use HTML input field to locate an image from the gallery.”

I would really like to know how to easily do this! I need a working image upload field for the Android browser.

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By: surinder https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-147866 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:59:45 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-147866 see these:
http://picupapp.com
http://www.cliqcliq.com

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By: Rob Fletcher https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-147659 Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:05:29 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-147659 What if your web apps purpose to upload files? What do you do then?

Is there a way with HTML/CSS/JS to role your own file upload link?

Yep this is really easy on Android to use HTML input field to locate an image from the gallery.

Not so easy on ipod touch.

I think they create these shortcomings on purpose so developers have to learn Obective-C and build native apps instead of being able to easily role a web app.

Do you have any suggestions for making a file uploader in js?

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By: Shirley Man https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-132402 Sun, 30 May 2010 05:08:32 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-132402 I would simply replace the button with an error message saying this feature is not supported currently on mobile Safari.

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By: David Millar https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-132127 Fri, 28 May 2010 18:32:03 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-132127 My first instinct is to have it open the photo gallery. My second one is a multiple option dialog like when you hold your finger over links, and give options like “Photo Gallery” and “Attach a File from URL” and “Cancel” or something of that nature.

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By: Harry Brignull https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-132037 Fri, 28 May 2010 06:42:33 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-132037 I was thinking the same thing – keep the button greyed out, then have an alert dialog that appears, but this does seem distinctly un-Appley. Initially I’d thought about showing a message on the page, but of course this would screw up the layout of most web pages.

Lack of a general purpose “file manager” on the iPhone is a real problem for certain kinds of webapps. I spend a lot of my time working on a job board platform – where the user normally has to upload their resume (.doc/.pdf/etc) as part of a job application. I’m currently looking at a solution that involves redirecting users to use a desktop/laptop computer to upload a CV into their account if they haven’t already got one in there. I’d prefer not to have to do this.

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By: hanford https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-131992 Fri, 28 May 2010 01:41:08 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-131992 Apple loves to hedge their bets like this. Having the button say “you can’t upload at this time” is admitting a flaw in their design. So they don’t admit it (just like Jobs stalling for *years* about talking about the lack of Flash and the reasoning behind it)

My first idea would be to enable uploading. Heh. But other than that, I’d say … keep the button ghosted out, but clicking it opens up a dialog that explains that file uploading isn’t possible in mobile safari.

BUT! Apple are geniuses, so, let me take a different approach:

Perhaps Apple tested it in its current form and discovered that it only really bothered UX designers like us, and so didn’t rev it to be better.

I don’t think Apple does user testing, though.

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By: Elthar https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-131957 Thu, 27 May 2010 20:58:47 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-131957 @Anon Coward

Yeah, they totally should put it like this:

Select a file: … oh, wait, you can’t do that. Go get yourself an Android, loser.

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By: Harry Brignull https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-131896 Thu, 27 May 2010 14:12:52 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-131896 @Duhmcah – True, but this involves you, the web designer, doing extra work, rather than Apple fixing up Mobile Safari to be less confusing.

@Brandon – That’s a start, but what if you want to upload other file-types?

@Alex – Yes, perhaps in one possible future, this message will be accurate, but that’s a bit Star Trek isn’t it?

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By: Brandon Corbin https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-131888 Thu, 27 May 2010 13:36:00 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-131888 Why they don’t just open the Photo Gallery is beyond me.

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By: Alex G https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-131884 Thu, 27 May 2010 13:22:57 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-131884 I’d say “In some circumstances, this control will be active” is actually accurate, those circumstances being in the distant future versions :-)

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By: Duhmcah https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-131883 Thu, 27 May 2010 13:22:10 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-131883 Lots of websites can tell if you are browsing from an iPhone surely the best option is to remove the entire option with an iPhone version of the site, or change it to a friendly message saying “this option is not available on the current platform”

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By: Anon Coward https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/05/27/mobile-safaris-misleadingly-greyed-out-file-upload-control/#comment-131882 Thu, 27 May 2010 13:17:44 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=3382#comment-131882 When the user clicks ‘choose file’, a photo of an android handset should appear, with a message stating ‘YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT ONE OF THESE’ :-)

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